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  <title>Comment by Jim Webber</title>
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  <published>2005-02-02T11:30:08Z</published>
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  <content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jacek,</p>

<p>MEST isn't imperative. In fact it's deliberately un-imperative. The focus of MEST is simply on the transfer of SOAP messages. The action taken on receipt of a SOAP message is a function of the structure and content of that message, and the receiving service implementation.</p>

<p>This, we believe, helps with loose coupling and robustness and enables other useful stuff like straightforward scalability and fail-over.</p>

<p>Jim</p>]]></content>
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      <name>Jim Webber</name>
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  <title>Comment by Jacek</title>
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  <published>2005-02-02T11:38:16Z</published>
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  <content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Jim, what's more important in determining the action on a receipt of a message - the content of the message or the implementation? I.e. can you construct a message that will make me print something out or fail if I cannot print, or is it me who decides totally what I do with the message, possibly basing my decisions on the content of the message?</p>

<p>If it's the latter, MEST seems only like a new name for an old thing, not even bringing things together in a novel way. The value of MEST would only be in PR.</p>]]></content>
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      <name>Jacek</name>
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  <title>Comment by anon</title>
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  <published>2005-02-03T07:29:32Z</published>
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  <content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jacek. I think this entry and your comment on Jim's post gets right to the core of the problem. As far as I can see (like yourself), MEST is describing a "plain 'ol message passing" paradigm or, put as you put it ProcessMessage is HereIsAMessage. It doesn't add anything architecturally to the same old debates we've seen around MOM for years.</p>]]></content>
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